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How to automate "Integrate"
Posted 11 gen 2012, 16:50 GMT-5 Geometry, Results & Visualization Version 4.2 4 Replies
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Possibly a dumb question, I am new at this...
I am modelling oxygen diffusion to an array of spheres through a substrate with some heterogeneities. One objective is to integrate oxygen flux to each sphere, report those values, and then afterwards I can look at the distribution of these values to check if we can reasonably claim that they all get more or less the same amount.
So I can do this manually, by creating an "Integral" under Data Sets for each sphere individually and manually selecting and adding all the faces, and then exporting the diffusive flux magnitude. The problem is I need meaningful n values so maybe 100 or more spheres, and this would take a long time of just clicking around to set up (and then I'd have to combine the 100 exported individual data files). Also I'd like to be able to modify the model easily in the future. Is there a way to do this in a more automated way? The spheres themselves are arrayed copies of a single original sphere. Ideally I'd like to end up with one exported file that has a separate value in it for the integrated flux magnitude for each sphere.
Thanks
Mark
I am modelling oxygen diffusion to an array of spheres through a substrate with some heterogeneities. One objective is to integrate oxygen flux to each sphere, report those values, and then afterwards I can look at the distribution of these values to check if we can reasonably claim that they all get more or less the same amount.
So I can do this manually, by creating an "Integral" under Data Sets for each sphere individually and manually selecting and adding all the faces, and then exporting the diffusive flux magnitude. The problem is I need meaningful n values so maybe 100 or more spheres, and this would take a long time of just clicking around to set up (and then I'd have to combine the 100 exported individual data files). Also I'd like to be able to modify the model easily in the future. Is there a way to do this in a more automated way? The spheres themselves are arrayed copies of a single original sphere. Ideally I'd like to end up with one exported file that has a separate value in it for the integrated flux magnitude for each sphere.
Thanks
Mark
4 Replies Last Post 12 gen 2012, 21:31 GMT-5
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1 decade ago
Hi
I would say you should consider scripting your model via Matlab or an API programming approach
to start you can build a first model in the GUI and then save it as a "m" file, then build ur model based on this m file
but clicking around is rather common, we have models with > 800 magnets generated within COMSOL and disposed on a spherical surface, + coils and sources, this requires quite some clicking (and a tennis elbow from the right-clicks ;) but it works 100% inside the GUI
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Good luck
Ivar
I would say you should consider scripting your model via Matlab or an API programming approach
to start you can build a first model in the GUI and then save it as a "m" file, then build ur model based on this m file
but clicking around is rather common, we have models with > 800 magnets generated within COMSOL and disposed on a spherical surface, + coils and sources, this requires quite some clicking (and a tennis elbow from the right-clicks ;) but it works 100% inside the GUI
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Good luck
Ivar
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1 decade ago
If there is a gap between the spheres you can select all the spheres in one integral and multiply the integrated quantity by something like (x>A)*(x<B)*(y>C)*(y<D) where A and B are the bounds of one sphere in the x-direction and C and D are the bounds in the y-direction. That way, you can, either manually or through a Matlab/Java API, just change A-D and reevaluate the integral.
Nagi Elabbasi
Veryst Engineering
Nagi Elabbasi
Veryst Engineering
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Posted:
1 decade ago
Hi
I would say you should consider scripting your model via Matlab or an API programming approach
to start you can build a first model in the GUI and then save it as a "m" file, then build ur model based on this m file
but clicking around is rather common, we have models with > 800 magnets generated within COMSOL and disposed on a spherical surface, + coils and sources, this requires quite some clicking (and a tennis elbow from the right-clicks ;) but it works 100% inside the GUI
--
Good luck
Ivar
That looks very useful. I have made an example and done some text editing, but now how do you get the modified M file back into COMSOL (4.2 with multiphysics)?
thanks
Mark
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1 decade ago
OK, so I have found what looks like a solution (still one thing I'm having trouble with though).
I define a surface under "Results", and select all of the surfaces of all the spheres (technically the faces all belong to the material surrounding the spheres) using the "Select box" tool. Then I export this surface giving me diffusive flux magnitude. As the spheres are in a grid pattern it's easy to assign faces to the correct sphere based on their X and Y coordinates.
The trouble is, the output is diffusive flux magnitude per square meter (results match what I get manually wth Fick's Law for the toy model), and I can't figure out how to get the area of the corresponding mesh element to multiply it by to find out the absolute flux for each element. Also, there are many more exported data points than i expected. For example, I made a toy model moving O2 through a cube and set the mesh to "extremely coarse", so the end face only consists of two triangles. However, when I export this surface instead of the expected 2, I get 25 nodes if i export gauss points (order 1) or 79 (!) if I export Lagrangian points. The only mesh parameter I can export in the same file is "h" - my impression is that this number represents the longest edge of the 3D mesh element to which the specific triangle is attached and forms the surface - so it may not even be an edge shared with the triangle I care about. Any idea where i can get the relevant area numbers?
thanks
Mark
I define a surface under "Results", and select all of the surfaces of all the spheres (technically the faces all belong to the material surrounding the spheres) using the "Select box" tool. Then I export this surface giving me diffusive flux magnitude. As the spheres are in a grid pattern it's easy to assign faces to the correct sphere based on their X and Y coordinates.
The trouble is, the output is diffusive flux magnitude per square meter (results match what I get manually wth Fick's Law for the toy model), and I can't figure out how to get the area of the corresponding mesh element to multiply it by to find out the absolute flux for each element. Also, there are many more exported data points than i expected. For example, I made a toy model moving O2 through a cube and set the mesh to "extremely coarse", so the end face only consists of two triangles. However, when I export this surface instead of the expected 2, I get 25 nodes if i export gauss points (order 1) or 79 (!) if I export Lagrangian points. The only mesh parameter I can export in the same file is "h" - my impression is that this number represents the longest edge of the 3D mesh element to which the specific triangle is attached and forms the surface - so it may not even be an edge shared with the triangle I care about. Any idea where i can get the relevant area numbers?
thanks
Mark