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RF domain -> EM waves -> Eigenvalue -> Magnetic field plot?

Posted 27 gen 2014, 10:35 GMT-5 10 Replies

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Hello,

I have a problem in plotting (or even calculating?) magnetic field in a simple structure and I am using Comsol 4.3a. The structure is a cylinder shape shield (perfect conductor) and inside is a dielectric ring. The thing is that I cannot get magnetic field. It is possible to get electric field and there is no problem, also this is written on the Comsol website: "However, it is no longer possible to solve for the magnetic field H as a dependent variable.". Rest could be found here www.comsol.com/support/releasenotes/4.2/rf/ .

Does anyone know how to plot (calculate) magnetic field from EM wave?

Best.
10 Replies Last Post 28 gen 2014, 04:20 GMT-5
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Posted: 1 decade ago 27 gen 2014, 11:02 GMT-5

Of course you can plot the magnetic field in EM waves. Please be more specific what the issue is. Don't you find the expression in the menus or is the result not what you expect? You might consider to show us your model.

Cheers
Edgar

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Of course you can plot the magnetic field in EM waves. Please be more specific what the issue is. Don't you find the expression in the menus or is the result not what you expect? You might consider to show us your model. Cheers Edgar -- Edgar J. Kaiser emPhys Physical Technology http://www.emphys.com
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Posted: 1 decade ago 27 gen 2014, 11:31 GMT-5
Thank you for reply. Maybe it is good to say that this is very first thing I am doing in comsol, so I maybe didn't do all the required steps.

After I set the geometry, I opened Electromagnetic waves, Freq domain. There I set all the values for the wave equation.

From there I get good result for the electric field, but when I try to plot magnetic field it gives only zero. In order to plot it I go for "right click" on results -> 3D plot group -> Slice. In slice expression field I put emw.Hz.

I really do not know if I am not plotting it well, or the problem is that magnetic field is not calculated in the first place.

If anything needs to be clarified, please let me know.
Thank you for reply. Maybe it is good to say that this is very first thing I am doing in comsol, so I maybe didn't do all the required steps. After I set the geometry, I opened Electromagnetic waves, Freq domain. There I set all the values for the wave equation. From there I get good result for the electric field, but when I try to plot magnetic field it gives only zero. In order to plot it I go for "right click" on results -> 3D plot group -> Slice. In slice expression field I put emw.Hz. I really do not know if I am not plotting it well, or the problem is that magnetic field is not calculated in the first place. If anything needs to be clarified, please let me know.
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Posted: 1 decade ago 27 gen 2014, 11:57 GMT-5
It is not possible to give a better advice without seeing the model. It would just be guessing.

Cheers
Edgar
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It is not possible to give a better advice without seeing the model. It would just be guessing. Cheers Edgar -- Edgar J. Kaiser emPhys Physical Technology http://www.emphys.com
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Posted: 1 decade ago 27 gen 2014, 12:11 GMT-5
I am sorry, but unfortunately I cannot upload any file, it gives me "file extension error". Did you thought of attaching some picture or comsol file of what I am doing?
I am sorry, but unfortunately I cannot upload any file, it gives me "file extension error". Did you thought of attaching some picture or comsol file of what I am doing?
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Posted: 1 decade ago 27 gen 2014, 12:18 GMT-5

I need the model file (.mph).

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I need the model file (.mph). -- Edgar J. Kaiser emPhys Physical Technology http://www.emphys.com
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Posted: 1 decade ago 28 gen 2014, 03:18 GMT-5
From different computer I managed to upload a file, and now it is in the attachment.

I would really appreciate if you could give me some further help.

Thank you very much,
Best.

From different computer I managed to upload a file, and now it is in the attachment. I would really appreciate if you could give me some further help. Thank you very much, Best.
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Posted: 1 decade ago 28 gen 2014, 03:48 GMT-5

I had a look at your model and saw that the magnetic field is phase shifted by exactly 90°. You can see the magnetic field by plotting the norm or by plotting the imaginary component or by looking at the solution at phase angle 90°.

This seems to be a property of your model.
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I had a look at your model and saw that the magnetic field is phase shifted by exactly 90°. You can see the magnetic field by plotting the norm or by plotting the imaginary component or by looking at the solution at phase angle 90°. This seems to be a property of your model. -- Edgar J. Kaiser emPhys Physical Technology http://www.emphys.com
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Posted: 1 decade ago 28 gen 2014, 04:10 GMT-5
I can plot magnetic field norm, and it works fine. But still I cannot plot magnetic field component, did you succeed in that?

And could you please tell me how is it possible to change phase for 90deg, or to plot imaginary part?
I can plot magnetic field norm, and it works fine. But still I cannot plot magnetic field component, did you succeed in that? And could you please tell me how is it possible to change phase for 90deg, or to plot imaginary part?
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Posted: 1 decade ago 28 gen 2014, 04:14 GMT-5

As I said, you have to plot the imaginary part (e.g. imag(emw.Hz) ) of the vector field components. Check the documentation for solution phase angle.

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As I said, you have to plot the imaginary part (e.g. imag(emw.Hz) ) of the vector field components. Check the documentation for solution phase angle. -- Edgar J. Kaiser emPhys Physical Technology http://www.emphys.com
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Posted: 1 decade ago 28 gen 2014, 04:20 GMT-5
Thank you very much once again.

Your advice is very helpful!
Thank you very much once again. Your advice is very helpful!

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