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How to set up the port?

Posted 23 lug 2015, 03:05 GMT-4 RF & Microwave Engineering, Results & Visualization Version 4.4 2 Replies

Thanatcha Sat
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Dear all,

I use RF module constructing 2 models, which have same structures except the length. The input power and other parameters are also the same. But after simulation, the power at the incident port of both models are not equal. I want them to have a same value in order to compare the wave and study the dissipate power along distance. I already use a scattering BC. The characteristic are similar but still not equal. So, I wonder that is there any way to set up the structure to have a same input power after the simulation?

Thank you in advance
2 Replies Last Post 2 nov 2015, 00:55 GMT-5
Robert Koslover Certified Consultant
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Posted: 9 years ago 4 ago 2015, 14:28 GMT-4
Select your wave-launching boundary as a "Port," set "Wave excitation at this point" to On, and then click (to check) the checkbox that says "Specify deposited power." This is supposed to force the input power to the value you set.

Alternatively, If your model is linear, then you can just leave that box unchecked, and scale your results based on the post-processed computed input power, which you can find by integrating the normal component of the average Poynting vector on the port. Also, if you choose this latter method, you don't have to choose your launching boundary as a "Port" at all, but could use a scattering boundary, if you prefer. But I use Ports whenever they fit the physics, since they come with convenient computational features.
Select your wave-launching boundary as a "Port," set "Wave excitation at this point" to On, and then click (to check) the checkbox that says "Specify deposited power." This is supposed to force the input power to the value you set. Alternatively, If your model is linear, then you can just leave that box unchecked, and scale your results based on the post-processed computed input power, which you can find by integrating the normal component of the average Poynting vector on the port. Also, if you choose this latter method, you don't have to choose your launching boundary as a "Port" at all, but could use a scattering boundary, if you prefer. But I use Ports whenever they fit the physics, since they come with convenient computational features.
Sriram Guddala
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Posted: 9 years ago 2 nov 2015, 00:55 GMT-5
Dear Robert,
I am simulating a metal-dielectric tri-layer structure with chi3 contribution to the electric permittivity at higher power levels. I have defined the electric permittivity from Lorentz-Drude Model (L-D) and defied the epsilon (Total) = epsilon (L-D) +3*chi3*mod(E^2). Here mod(E^2) is from the selected domain probes. So for the wave excitation, i have opted the "port" and defined "specified deposited power" as 1W, and activated the slit condition downward to the simulating unit cell with domain backed conditions. In the computation I have used "Stationary solver" with "MUMPS" solver. The simulation starting to "Nonlinear solver" and iterative mode until finding a convergent result. The electric field coming out to some value with 10^(-20).

But the same simulation with unchecked box for "specified deposited power" running the simulation in "linear solver" and giving the electric field to some value of 10^(7).

So why does the electric field differs a lot. what method should i follow for the defined specified deposited power contribution to the electric permittivity.

Thank you
sriram
Dear Robert, I am simulating a metal-dielectric tri-layer structure with chi3 contribution to the electric permittivity at higher power levels. I have defined the electric permittivity from Lorentz-Drude Model (L-D) and defied the epsilon (Total) = epsilon (L-D) +3*chi3*mod(E^2). Here mod(E^2) is from the selected domain probes. So for the wave excitation, i have opted the "port" and defined "specified deposited power" as 1W, and activated the slit condition downward to the simulating unit cell with domain backed conditions. In the computation I have used "Stationary solver" with "MUMPS" solver. The simulation starting to "Nonlinear solver" and iterative mode until finding a convergent result. The electric field coming out to some value with 10^(-20). But the same simulation with unchecked box for "specified deposited power" running the simulation in "linear solver" and giving the electric field to some value of 10^(7). So why does the electric field differs a lot. what method should i follow for the defined specified deposited power contribution to the electric permittivity. Thank you sriram

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