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Unstable Electric field in Time domain simulation

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Hello,

What I am trying to do :

I have been trying to simulate a bowtie antenna structure in time domain. The operating frequency is around - 10 GHz and I have designed the antenna dimension according to that.

Boundary Conditions in Time domain :

I have selected boundary condition (PMC, PEC, SBC) on the side walls of the big air box. I have used excitation plane waves which is coming from the top of the big air box using SBC and the excitation plane waves E (1,1,0).

Problem I am facing with the Result:

In the result section, I am checking how the E-field at the center of the gap is changing with time (ns). The problem I am facing right now is - The electric field, E, at the center of the gap seems to be unstable (as you can see in the attached figure). It seems to be there is an amplitude modulation going on in E-field. Whereas, the expected E-field should be steady with time (pure sine wave).

I thought there might be an issue related to the reflection of the wave from the boundary of the air box. But since, the dimension of my air box is around 5*lamda (wavelength); therefore, I don't get the point why the E-field shows a standing wave pattern at the gap.

I would like to know why E-field in my model is unstable and how can I fix it? Please kindly let me know. I have been trying to fix this thing for more than a week. Please feel free suggest if you think the model can be improved by doing it in any other way. I have attached the my Comsol model for your convenience.

Thanks for your patience and cooperation.

Regards,


4 Replies Last Post 27 mag 2017, 13:09 GMT-4
Edgar J. Kaiser Certified Consultant

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Posted: 8 years ago 26 mag 2017, 17:55 GMT-4
Rishad,

did you check the time stepping? It might be an aliasing effect.

Cheers
Edgar

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Rishad, did you check the time stepping? It might be an aliasing effect. Cheers Edgar -- Edgar J. Kaiser emPhys Physical Technology http://www.emphys.com

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Posted: 7 years ago 26 mag 2017, 20:20 GMT-4
Updated: 7 years ago 26 mag 2017, 20:22 GMT-4
Hi Edgar,

Thanks for your response.

Would you please kindly, explain the effect of aliasing due to time stepping. I know the concept of aliasing but how it relates to time stepping in the time domain simulation?

However, in my simulation, in time dependent solver, (given, f=10 GHz, lamda= 30 mm)

total time simulation = 2 ns (as you can see from the attached figure)
time step= 0.005 ns, (I set)
initial time stepping= 0.001 ns (I set)
maximum time step= 0.005 ns (I set)

Would you please kindly elaborate if this time stepping is leading the solution to aliasing effect, if so, then how can I fix the problem to obtain the correct solution ?

Thanks Edgar, I appreciate your cooperation.

-Rishad




Hi Edgar, Thanks for your response. Would you please kindly, explain the effect of aliasing due to time stepping. I know the concept of aliasing but how it relates to time stepping in the time domain simulation? However, in my simulation, in time dependent solver, (given, f=10 GHz, lamda= 30 mm) total time simulation = 2 ns (as you can see from the attached figure) time step= 0.005 ns, (I set) initial time stepping= 0.001 ns (I set) maximum time step= 0.005 ns (I set) Would you please kindly elaborate if this time stepping is leading the solution to aliasing effect, if so, then how can I fix the problem to obtain the correct solution ? Thanks Edgar, I appreciate your cooperation. -Rishad

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Posted: 7 years ago 27 mag 2017, 04:21 GMT-4

The time stepping with 20 steps/period seems ok. You can always test it by using a finer time step. You may have other temporal effects in the model since you generate a wavefront that probably gets reflected to some degree at the boundaries.

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Edgar J. Kaiser
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The time stepping with 20 steps/period seems ok. You can always test it by using a finer time step. You may have other temporal effects in the model since you generate a wavefront that probably gets reflected to some degree at the boundaries. -- Edgar J. Kaiser emPhys Physical Technology http://www.emphys.com

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Posted: 7 years ago 27 mag 2017, 13:09 GMT-4
Hello Edgar,

The boundaries of the air box is at distance 2 lamda away from the antenna, how can I consider this thing as a reflection issue ?

How can I fix the reflection issue from the boundaries if there is any issue ?

Please kindly let me know.

Thanks,
Rishad
Hello Edgar, The boundaries of the air box is at distance 2 lamda away from the antenna, how can I consider this thing as a reflection issue ? How can I fix the reflection issue from the boundaries if there is any issue ? Please kindly let me know. Thanks, Rishad

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