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Calculating contact area

Posted 4 feb 2013, 17:24 GMT-5 Version 5.2a 7 Replies

Michael Duffy
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Is there any way to calculate the contact area of a contact pair within COMSOL (ie without having to post-process data in MATLAB, which I have yet to try)? I have tried surface integration and other options under "Derived Values" to no avail.
7 Replies Last Post 14 feb 2017, 15:28 GMT-5
Ivar KJELBERG COMSOL Multiphysics(r) fan, retired, former "Senior Expert" at CSEM SA (CH)
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Posted: 1 decade ago 5 feb 2013, 01:54 GMT-5
Hi

if you integrate a Boolean equation on the contact pressure, when its over a given limit value you can get a reasonable contact area surface out (you can also plot it like that to see the shape to check

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Good luck
Ivar
Hi if you integrate a Boolean equation on the contact pressure, when its over a given limit value you can get a reasonable contact area surface out (you can also plot it like that to see the shape to check -- Good luck Ivar
Michael Duffy
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Posted: 1 decade ago 5 feb 2013, 09:22 GMT-5
Excellent! Thank you.
Excellent! Thank you.
Chengzhi Hu
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Posted: 10 years ago 17 apr 2015, 06:05 GMT-4
I also have the same question. But I am not sure what is the meaning by " integrate a Boolean equation on the contact pressure". Thank you.
I also have the same question. But I am not sure what is the meaning by " integrate a Boolean equation on the contact pressure". Thank you.
Nagi Elabbasi Facebook Reality Labs
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Posted: 10 years ago 17 apr 2015, 10:29 GMT-4
Hi Chengzhi,

If the contact pressure is called say solid.Tn then the Boolean operation is (solid.Tn>0). This expression gives a value of one when the pressure is positive, zero otherwise. If you integrate it over a surface it gives the area of the region that is in contact.

Nagi Elabbasi
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Hi Chengzhi, If the contact pressure is called say solid.Tn then the Boolean operation is (solid.Tn>0). This expression gives a value of one when the pressure is positive, zero otherwise. If you integrate it over a surface it gives the area of the region that is in contact. Nagi Elabbasi Veryst Engineering
Daniel Connelly
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Posted: 10 years ago 17 apr 2015, 14:11 GMT-4
One issue with Booleans is they are sensitive to small changes in mesh. An alternative is to use a function which goes from 0 at 0 to 1 at high values, for example:

f = (P/P0)^2 / [ 1 + (P / P0)^2 ]

for some threshold pressure P0.
One issue with Booleans is they are sensitive to small changes in mesh. An alternative is to use a function which goes from 0 at 0 to 1 at high values, for example: f = (P/P0)^2 / [ 1 + (P / P0)^2 ] for some threshold pressure P0.
Jacopo Cugliari
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Posted: 9 years ago 13 mar 2016, 11:07 GMT-4
Hi,
I have a 2D model costituited by elastomer (rectangular block) that sliding on rigid (square) pyramidal substrate; how can i estimate effective contact area of elastomer? How can i set Contact penality setting? i attach my file, where i wrong? Please someone answer me, thank you previously
Hi, I have a 2D model costituited by elastomer (rectangular block) that sliding on rigid (square) pyramidal substrate; how can i estimate effective contact area of elastomer? How can i set Contact penality setting? i attach my file, where i wrong? Please someone answer me, thank you previously

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Andreas Bovin
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Posted: 8 years ago 14 feb 2017, 15:28 GMT-5
Hello Nagi,

I have tried to use your method to evaluate the contact area for each step in a simulation with multiple load steps. I have a 2D-axisymmetric geometry and have probed the relevant boundary with the following expression: (solid.Tn < 0.01). The probe is made to integrate over the boundary nodes, so that the contact area (in 2d-axi collapsed state) is found.

The probe produces a plot which looks reasonable, however the recorded values of the probe are stored as NaN in the relevant table. If I try to update the probe, it returns the following error:

Undefined variable.
- Variable: comp1.solid.Tn
- Geometry: geom1
- Boundary: 14
Failed to evaluate expression.
- Expression: 1000000*(comp1.solid.Tn<0.01)

Enabling the "Compute surface integral" does not change the situation. Neither does "summation over nodes" instead of integration.


Do you have any suggestions on how to move on from here?

Kind regards,
Andreas
Hello Nagi, I have tried to use your method to evaluate the contact area for each step in a simulation with multiple load steps. I have a 2D-axisymmetric geometry and have probed the relevant boundary with the following expression: (solid.Tn < 0.01). The probe is made to integrate over the boundary nodes, so that the contact area (in 2d-axi collapsed state) is found. The probe produces a plot which looks reasonable, however the recorded values of the probe are stored as NaN in the relevant table. If I try to update the probe, it returns the following error: Undefined variable. - Variable: comp1.solid.Tn - Geometry: geom1 - Boundary: 14 Failed to evaluate expression. - Expression: 1000000*(comp1.solid.Tn

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